Very good comments. Wise teachers like Jesus would never tell us to be afraid because it would directly limit our ability to grow in faith and love. And hes a tremendous teacher. They will range over the earth, visit distant friends, and, for aught we know, the planets, and accomplish great feats; do that which will enhance our happiness, increase to us every enjoyment of life, and prepare us for celestial glory; but when we wake in the morning, it is all gone from us; we have forgotten it.. When youre old, odd isnt as odd as it is when youre young and have a nice big box to fit everything into. by keeprunning August 19th, 2021, 9:29 pm, Post Rush was the first LDS scholar to accurately decipher the prophetic writings of Ezra now known as Ezra's Eagle. . In that last days we are told that spiritual manifestations will increase. And it the eyes of some, they may very well have pulled it off. But the shift isnt just talking about revelation to church leaders. Post Upon concluding his mission, Michael attended and graduated from Brigham Young University with a degree in accounting and information systems. Here is how I believe it breaks down. I quite like Michael Rush. And Im asking HIM to teach me how to do that but it cant just be bestowed on me. Im not sure that garment changes fit a philosophy one way or another. I think part of the disconnect here is what constitutes a moderate/liberal/progressive change. Yet I have to sit quiet. Apostasy, Excommunication, LDS, Mormon, Mormon Discussion. Obey the eternal Lord and Savior of all the world? It is believing that these things are real and, as some seem to think, more important than anything, that is our biggest stumbling block to establishing Zion. by ransomme August 20th, 2021, 10:06 am, Post Referring to the changes in priesthood quorums and ministering announced at the April general conference, Elder Holland quipped that he wasnt sure how many more rushes of revelation members of the Church could handle from President Nelson. But its my understanding that he is appealing their ruling so well see how that goes. Preparing for the Second Coming - Pres. Evan. Michael Rush currently lives in Franklin, TN; in the past Michael has also lived in Draper UT. Scootb28, I admire your own zeal for Zion and Im with you on that. Lest we wonder why we havent experienced Zion. This is the official page for Michael B. If these teachings are wrong, then God is dead and so is his church. Caring implies action; love is just a feeling. However, that was one very spiritual experience he shared with us that has stuck with me through life. Several people put together an open letter (a Google doc) citing new questionable teachings from his conference address onward. Talk to his neighbors and ward members as I have and you will see how badly you misjudge somebody who is only crime is taking the scriptures seriously and encouraging others to do the same. In my prayers I give thanks for what I have and very seldom ask for anything. Michael Rush currently lives in Franklin, TN; in the past Michael has also lived in Draper UT. I have enjoyed reading all of the comments. I have become a little too pragmatic. Comparing oneself to others cannot make that person any more of what they are nor does it make the other persons any less than what they are. The doctrine of personal revelation has definitely gotten a boost lately. Why? Bellamy, one of the reasons that I said maybe not for the reason you think in the headline is because I dont think he was excommunicated merely for teaching about calling and election, second comforter, or seeing angels. or. . If we just use good judgement we will already be able to expose the lies. Mike Stroud may have bore testimony of the church and the Brethren in one breath but in the next he bore testimony of the fact that their job is only one of a preparatory role. [3:00] It was inappropriate for me to teach that persons should seek to be translate or to receive an ordinance of translation and become members of the 144,000 spoken of in scripture. 281 likes. WATCH: Kamala Harris and Michael B. Jordan Open NBA All Star Game By Encouraging Vaccinations and Praising HBCUs Gov. 1. And as the author rightly conceded he never actually used the term astral projection. My response: Never heard of him, I'm not really one to listen to LDS commentators. Infact, what Bryson noted was that at the same time she was the most loved person in class she was also the most hated. Michael B Rush Family Robin C Rush Lindsey M Rush Joe M Rush Patrick M Rush Patrick Rush Show all locations and family Age. Robert Alan Goldberg, L. Jackson Newell, Linda King Newell. But I have read a lot of other material on enlightenment. In my previous post, I poked a little bit at Lynn Bryson. Specifically: an institution who makes such extraordinary claims about personal revelations would then regulate such claims.. Michael B. 97. Michael B. Jordan stars in the movie based on Clancy's novel. It is the ability to connect with god in this life that makes the gospel important. The BYU honor code itself was the result of a conservative change, so changes to restore some of the status quo ante are hardly progressive. Moroni 7 :35-37 It is the doctrine that converts. Handbook 1 Section 6.7.3 includes a special Mormon-speak definition of apostacy. Mikes telling us he was excommunicated for apostacy doesnt actually tell us why. I have read through most of it and it wasnt easy. More to the point, though, its not at all clear to me that certain moderate/liberal/progressive changes should be made. The lady said she knew it was the Lord. Visions of Glory: One Man's Astonishing Account of the Last Days [John Pontius] on Amazon.com. These are the scriptures of the common man not of the elite. All throughout the Scriptures we have stories of mostly men, extraordinary men, who have extraordinary experiences with God. Rush ultimately got his way. 4. If he gives his opinion he always clearly, clearly states it is his opinion only and is to be taken into consideration only if guided to by the spirit. It sort of robs you of the joy of giving when you are really just complying with your selfish childs wish list. We accept him as a prophet because his story is in the scriptures instead of a current podcast. I really hope we can preserve it all together, because I think a huge part of the value of Mormonism is in our organizational strength and size and reach. This journey led to a very odd place.the old apocrypha. Its separation that brings about other fallen concepts you pointed out like comparison, competition, contention. The Lord warned us this would be a problem in the last days. $875,000 7701 Atlantic Ave #1d, Riesenfeld Ernest Asen Dennis P; 12/24/20. His original analysis has been studied by students of the scriptures in over 130 countries worldwide, and is included in his first book A Remnant Shall Return first published in 2015. I wrote to Brother Stroud and suggested that perhaps the biggest trial of faith of all is to be excommunicated from the Lords true Church on earth for being obedient to the Lord, Himself! in Section 6.7.3 is a crime. But there are some things are easily disprovable which Ill I will now address. Still, I was worried at the time that Brysons universal constant might apply. He uses only scriptures and teachings of Latter-day prophets in his podcasts. All of us have the same promise. Alas, it is so widespread that to fill the roles in a typical ward one might have to dig into the barrel and choose some people that ought not to be chosen. Fenerbahe Players 2020, Stroud that he has been excommunicated and called an apostate, and is so harshly judged by so many. This document was basically their attempt to establish that. So Im going to love. Thats why Jesus taught the only sure way to know whats from God is to treat it like a seed, plant it and see what grows. If God offers gifts, are we supposed to disrespect the gift by refusing to seek after it?. Michael B Rush may have been arrested in or around of Florida, on or around Oct 30, 2010. And thus again the hypocrisy. However, as Michael read on, he discovered a terrible truth. Ill first quote Mike Strouds statement, then the authors reaction and then my own response. I can see the bind that the church is in here and I am actually somewhat sympathetic to its position, but of course, its a case where the church has done this to itself. He is the Author of The "Last Days" Timeline and website. In one, the words were, this is love. In the other, I care. DEHLIN, JOHN. Then Samuel the Lamanite on the wall, andoh, oh, oh! But havent as yet got much of it read. 2 Ne 9:28 Ill have to look into it. It seems like he worked really hard to avoid overt mention of the inappropriate teachings from his first series. Mike Stroud is teaching all of these NEW and EXPERIMENTAL concepts that are NOT based on any scriptural truths or words of the Prophets. Steve you are WRONG. There it is dude, black and white, my permission to explore the mysteries of God. What is told to your mind might be from God, might not be. The items in the verse refer to tools, the line is a snap line to get things straight. Again, if the idea is that moving in that direction will avoid schism or retain members, its not at all obvious to me that those changes would help. 117 N Sumner Ave, Rush Jennifer Zabinski Miller Michael B; 12/24/20. I have also been told clearly, Do not compare your experiences with others and Trust meRelax. His friends call him that or simply "B." But trying to tell "B's" story isn't easy. Lavina Fielding Anderson , one of the famed " ">September Six</a>" writers and scholars disciplined by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in 1993, got a big "no" last week to . Sounds like you agreed with some things I saidand some not or at least the terminology. Monthly Newsletter | Book Reviews | Contact Author, Free Chapters | Free Audiobooks | Free eBooks | Free Videos | Free Tools, Click on The Product You Would Like Below, Book Review:A Remnant Shall Return- byMichael B Rush, Free Download- See the Analyzed Differences Between The Last Days Timeline and A Remnant Shall Return - Click Here. They go together. The follow are some but not all the subjects that were brought up in the doc. Its just being wise about it. According to the Church, When someone obtains the Second Comforter, Jesus Christ will appear to him from time to time, will reveal the Father, and will teach him face to face (D&C 130:3). For Stroud, the Book of Mormon brings people closer to Christ and the heavenly hosts, literally. But he never told him not to take heed of deception. But the only way anyone can know the answer to your question is if they were in the room with the SP o and HC.In my experience even the letter announcing the hearing is very ambiguous and of course there is never any formal announcement for the rationale for the decision. Perry, James M., reporter, National Observer, "This Fella from Arizona", in Audubon, November 1981, pp. I think there are many in the church who are in possession of this Spirit and it is the quickest path to perfection and the Zion state for the church as a whole. Jehovahs plan included to take the risk and seek good-weird which may entail some bad weird. His original analysis has been studied by students of the scriptures in over 130 countries worldwide, and is included in his first book - A Remnant Shall Return first published in 2015.. Be notified when new blogs, videos or books are available. They mean well so it doesnt occur to them that odd and peculiar can be pretty damn good. What am I going to do about it? Mike Stroud: Both are tools to measure the truth of something. by h_p August 19th, 2021, 8:43 pm, Post Michael B. The lies will be exposed and the truth will spill out like water. If they say he was talking about astral projection then he was and thats that. Known addresses. June 6, 1891. Michael B. Strouds initial run of podcasts began in February 2016 and ended in November 2017. This Mike Stroud controversy is something that has somewhat divided me. And what I first noticed about the doc is that it plays out very much like an anti-mormon literature pamphlet citing all the concerns they have about certain beliefs and blaring numerous scriptures and quotes about false prophets. Its a bit strong (evoking images of the occult), but the idea of requesting a specific heavenly messengers by name does seem unusual. Whats with that? At the same time I think you are very accurate in noticing some of the biggest flaws of those who apostatize on the right. Marriner Eccles. Because of the higher calling that theyve appointed themselves to, all other rules can be ignored. Follow this link to a Book of Mormon discussion on the moral fiber of the Stripling Warriors "Talking Scripture" Alma 53-63. All I can say is in the end it will all work out. Clay Critter Dc, The hysteria surrounding the Salem witch trials was not brought about so much by church leaders at that time. Invitation. I've never seen or heard of any of the Revelation/interpretation as he has stated from the Church or our Prophets. It had more to do with some very immature teenager girls who convinced everyone that they had a special ability to see evil in a person that no one else could. On February 14th, podcaster Mike Stroud dropped a bombshell. Michael B Rush 1947 Born c. 1947 Last Known Residence Dallas County, Texas Summary Michael B Rush of Dallas County, Texas was born c. 1947. Where are they today? That flow from fountains pure. Recent Arrests. The truth is they dont really know much about it themselves, aside from what theyve heard from other spooks and online sources. Some of the garbage they sell slays me. I have heard a number of accounts of people claiming to have received a personal audience with the Savior, and after some were instructed by Him to share certain things about their experience, Church leaders told them to be quiet. To be fair, Mike did put a disclaimer at the beginning and the end of the podcast in question that this technique may not be for everyone and should only be tried with discernment. by ransomme August 20th, 2021, 3:57 am, Post She was one of the most loved people in the class. But when you weigh Mikes errors against those of his accusers with all their hypocrisy, fearmongering, deception and intimidation tactics there is really no comparison. This is where it can be hard to find a balance. Brother Skys comments are not without a sound of legitimacy, however, perhaps a couple more points might add to the discussion. This website is designed to be a secure portal for interested parties to learn more about Michael's research, as well as providing more advantageous purchasing options for his books and audio books. I really don't like his book Revelation. I look forward to the day when were all living in peace and harmony, of one heart and one mind. I'm really NOT seeing a connection to anything he is saying with those scriptures at all. His books speak for themselves. And honestly, the elephant in the room is: I remember reading this recently (already had it marked) because I am studying Isaiah right now, and he has it completed backwards and is taking it out of context. I have several friends who have been exec for apostasy and they still dont understand exactly what they were accused of.I will say that this ireminds me of Josephs complaint about the early Saints who were fond of setting up stakes and who would fly to pieces like a price of glass if he tried to teach them anything contrary to their traditions.Alma 13 tells us what happens to people who refuse to accept the opportunity to learn what God offers them. Continue to follow the teachings of apostate sects (such as those that advocate plural marriage) after being corrected by their bishop or a higher authority. I said, Who was it? She said, Why it was the Lord. I said, How do you know it was the Lord? She said, I just knew it was the Lord. And I said, Congratulations, youve had a Second Comforter experience. Conflicting values is nothing new. - by Michael B Rush Free Download - See the Analyzed Differences Between The Last Days Timeline and A Remnant Shall Return - Click Here Michael B Rush wrote this book as a Michael B. Fund Franchise michael b rush excommunicated. Required fields are marked *. Dont be afraid of being deceived. But without love you wont probably care, and if you care, it is because of love. .. by mes5464 August 20th, 2021, 8:57 am, Post Many near death experiences when put into a book get embellished but I have no doubt he had some sort of experience to be able to express what he did. That passion for Mormon doctrine did not prevent his 2003 excommunication from the LDS Church. MICHAEL B FITZGERALD. Michael's relationship status is married. Sandra Dawn Brimhall and Dawn Retta Brimhall. It takes the seeker after a sign to the next level. I think they all probably went to one too many Lynn Bryson firesides when they were younger. 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