You might love the fucking assholes in your Amway upline so much that you'd be happy to suck dick and kiss ass. Almost nobody finds success without a few major lapses in judgment along the way. It's funny how people will always look at a finished product and say that was easy our he's lucky. Can you give me some info about the way you work your business ? Its really sad that a manufacturer of good products is quite happy to see its reputation get flushed down the sewer. Thats how a brainwashed Amway asshole thinks. John and Jennie Belle Crowe are Amway legends, having been in the business almost fifty years now. I have an excellent credit rating but those fucking Amway assholes that read my blog accuse me of being broke. Anna. I feel bad for the people on here saying that they "TRIED" to work it, that means they never actually put the work in. Would you like to share this work plan to grow so highly with me as a help. I have a friend that's with Amway. Amway should just be a vehicle to provide that additional income to reinvest say into property or other investment opportunities. Her son won for her $77,400 on ABC's You Deserve It. At every Amway meeting the Ambots are brainwashed to believe that everyone who isn't in Amway and that would be the majority of the world, is broke. Unless they're fucked in the head like I previously covered.I get some low level IBO's showing up here bragging about how much money they make but everyone in Amway is a liar so that's nothing new.Wow you got so far in 3 years! It's like this, 5 seagulls are on a dock and one decides to fly away, How many seagulls are left?5. But, perhaps Theo is still around to clarify his math. Either way you are claiming that your parent company has not provided proper information to a governing body, and, based on how you say "we're not supposed to", this is a taught practice within your organization, going up and down your line. They have you indoctrinated to think that everything you read on the internet is simply the opinions of simple minded slack jawed uneducated liberals who only want to live off of their government welfare program. It looks like you're still brainwashed after all these years of being out. Same broke. The real broke losers are fucking Amway assholes. Try again later. And I'm talking a low quality chocolate. They were going to continue, and if Amway didn't like it Amway could fuck off. Only the most aggressive liars and scammers make money. In other words they accuse someone in the same income bracket as a Diamond of being broke so that shows their low opinion of broke Amway diamonds! Not bad money, but the sales organizations sell a mammoth sized lie. Ask your dad's friend to show you the ownership papers and his registration.If he's in Amway, he'll probably give you a lot of double-talk, and then pretend he didn't hear your questions. Nobody is coming into any of Theo's four McDonalds franchises to buy a dream (or motivational CD about how you too can own a McDonalds). Amway Wiki is one of the most popular Amway related websites on the internet, with nearly 20,000 visitors a month and an awful lot of that traffic comes from people searching for the names of individual Diamonds folk are looking for information, lets help them get the facts! Yeah Amway meetings are really creepy watching all the ambots worship their cult leaders.And no, you should say don't join Amway. An Ambot will never come back to clarify their "math". Otherwise take your agenda somewhere else. I say "prohibitively" because even getting ONE recruit is difficult. No praying required just think about it no one knows anyone here but we all know people who enjoy they're journey and we all know people that hate they're journey 95% percent of people are seeking solutions 5 percent are excited to join a ranting bunch. For me, it's the math that doesn't add up. Anonymous - I'm sure its a gross figure and its not the exact figure on Amway literature but its within a few thousand, I just like to work in round numbers. No one is guaranteed 6 figure income just because they join. i love to do this business. Look anna saintana fuck off and get a life. That of course includes many couples, but it means at that point in time, with sales of around $8 billion, there was clearly more than 2000 qualifying Diamonds. Deduct business expenses say 50 k. Or more. Of course peoples personal experiences and opinions are biased based on their true life stories duh!!! They can't live an Amway Diamond millionaire lifestyle on only Amway income. Anonymous - when it comes to Amway, Diamonds are not forever! This example, like most, contains a lot of assumptions and can only be used to provide an overall estimate of income. It will cost you at least $500/month to be in Amway, bet no one told you that? LOL! Its being ripped off by the scam.Yeah I remember the Amway cult leaders preaching over and over to show the plan. ?if someone unemployed joins amway..great! I told them to go F&@ck themselves. I've even heard IBOs discuss BILLIONAIREs they've met. Not everyone needs to be billion aires.When people join and leave their permanent jobs, that is their own risk and only they are to blame if they get financial issues.lastly why cant people still work if they are diamonds? I've seen stories where they'll say "come to the seminar.. But of course it didn't. Anonymous - LOL. I have to admit, I LOVE THIS. Those two couples are now in Amway/Quixtar terms "Emeralds and Diamonds". You know the correct income and Amway's head office is way off base by a half a million. Drawing circles and writing down $$ amounts of how much money the ambot makes if he eats one Amway food bar and drinks one Amway drink daily and finds 2 others to do it and if they find 2 others to do what they do and so on and so on. my opinion is that they had a goal and despite sooooooo many people telling them they can't do it, you're crazy, just quit. The other 5% will be broke losers forever except for a tiny percentage who are the best liars and the best scammers and have no morals and conscience and they will make some money at Scamway. Devastator1981 1 yr. ago. How the hell do I know if its fake or not? From what Ive seen of Amway Diamonds they live beyond their means. It helps others know they're not going through the Amway hell hole alone. I do believe it takes the right people to go Diamond or Ruby or Emerald in the business. LOL! Live from an Amway meeting! $3 per bar seems on the low side. Ironic that a fucking Amway asshole shows up on a post where we make fun of Amway assholes who go around accusing people in the same income bracket as their beloved Diamonds as broke losers and calls us broke. The tools and seminars are a choice and are recommended because if you can learn from someone who has already been down a path not to go there, then it will save you time and money. Your post highlights the problems with doing maths based on poor knowledge or false assumptions. (And, as ibofightback mentioned, there is overlap. even 19 years later, I am still haunted by that experience. You cant expect to make it big without the hussle. So, Theo took home some fraction of $1.22 million in that time.So how does a fraction of $1.22 million pay for 4 McDonalds franchises, 2 Denny's Diners, 1 Holiday Inn and 5 gas stations? The power in distribution has been for a very long time in the hands of a selected group of people. There's a lot of money lost and lives destroyed.Those motivational books and tapes you mentioned? The Amway products are horribly overpriced, so sales to the general public are minimal at best. How many IBOs have come in here claiming they know someone who makes "gazillions'? (later shortened to Amway) so they could expand the product line to include regular household items. They teach you to keep positive, keep pushing to achieve your dreams, and to never quit. could you explain more about amway. And all of us love the freedom we have to spend with our family and all the time and money we have now that the Amway cult is no longer sucking us dry emotionally and financially. Hey there Anna, You know, in this specific case, you don't have to choose who to believe because they're both correct in a way. Of course not, the information you are allowed to read is what has been given to you. The beachfront island resort offers vast ocean views and lively pools and lagoons in a setting for unforgettable adventure. An example is you we hate you cause your a hater and you are not passionate or have hope you dont have a life and you coulf go to hell and rott their. I have been with amway for only a month now, but this has been the most exciting time because my husband and I are preparing to reach diamond status in record time. It is noticeable that Mrs Banana post is biased with a lot of anger for an individual case. I cant promise you anything but how would you like to meet him for coffee?You get there and the bozo introduces himself as a Platinum whether or not he is. For the past decade, Amway has had a bumpy ride. Kiyosaki was homeless for a while fighting for a dream. This page was last modified on 12 January 2016, at 16:29. More importantly, those mistakes don't define you. If you have capital to build a business then do so help the economy and build something of your own. urgent..i want my ex lover back he is leavingme not calling or texting, he is not even responding to meanymore. Same bullshit, different company. %??? Seeing the greedy diamonds giving their bullshit speeches, I wanted to vomit. Comments are moderated but we publish just about everything. Do your research amigosForbes.com #25 on the top 100 listNet-work marketing is a legitimate businessSears, best buy, Apple, Barnes and Nobles, Office Depot, Disney, and a total of 80 others are all partners with this so call scamwayIf Amway is a scam then call the feds because this is the longest scam in the history of the U.S54 years to be exactI suggest you read books on the industry (Network Marketing) which has 52 billion dollars in revenue each yearRobert Kiyosaki wrote a book "The business for the 21st Century" also "School of Business"Other books to get information on the industry "The New Professionals"Donald Trump and Warren Buffet both have NETWORK MARKETING COMPANIES and they have BILLIONS of reasons as to why I stop and listen to them. Well FUCK YOU asshole! According to him the recruitment takes 7 steps and he'd like to meet me again tomorrow to complete another step. At least Anna is working to persuade others NOT to embark on that journey to hell. To warn everyone what people in Amway are really like. Anonymous - good on you for saying NO to Amway. I'm guessing your involvement in this "opportunity" has been no longer than 2 years. Lets keep it safe for everyone. This group is allegedly responsible for helping over 500 distributors reach Diamond status in Amway. If it crumbles after 10 years fineshit happens, you would still have many properties providing you with rental income. take steps now to have a golden retirement later. After a half hour of talking to him I feel like I already wasted a big chunk of my life I will never get back. So please give us some hints like describe yourself or something. And wouldn't you like to be your own boss and blah blah blah.Stuff that would make sense if it was a legitimate business opportunity and not that you're paying a company big bucks to be a lowly paid commissioned salesperson.Then the Ambot pulled out a napkin and drew circles on it and said you find 6 people and they find 6 people and so on and then you'll all be rich.That book you read, without commenting on its contents is a huge seller for Amway. If your career pays you 100k per year and you make 50k a year in amway, are you going to be complaining? Depending how old they are they might not ever be able to bounce back from the Amway hell hole. Otherwise no one would be making money because nobody who's not an Ambot wants to buy Amway product. Answer (1 of 9): Amway diamond income is made up of bonus and commissions paid by Amway and the income earned from BWW which produces Talks and organizes seminars. Amway's are like chocolate coated cardboard. L.O.L. Joe's commentary. Where else would you get that working 4 hours a week?recessions happen and effect more than just amway. . People have enough of the Amway bullshit. In the year to August 31, 1993, Amway achieved revenue of $210 million, an increase of 9.7% over the previous year, and it posted a rise of 17.4% . Amway has been great to me and my family. His numbers and claims just don't add up. It's so funny that you all still think it's a scam and it doesn't work. takes only FALTU KA TV Tiem only The meeting was held in his garage, white board in the front, markers and circles, 6 people etc etc. Amway Christians. Now there's a topic for the day. Got in in '94, and out in '96. The business is an opportunity, not a hand out. Amway's own figures on their literature show only a small fraction of 1% IBO's make money. LolAmway Ambot so called geniuses, Diamonds whatever.please slam my text because I don't give a shit and won't respond.lol AMWAY = ARROGANT MATERIALIST WICKED APES YAHOOSI am not saying don't join Amway. They are first people you should turn to for advice. I however agreed to meet his guy or I guess what you would call his upline, according to this blog. Do they get commission every time they get a new person to join? Their income as declared by Amway is Rs 82.41 Lacs/an. You can be like the majority of prospects and say you'll be there and just be a no show. Tobbi - you are probably right. Someone making the kind of money Theo claims would have to have thousands in in downline (and how he got that many in 3 years when most people will tell you that even getting ONE recruit is harder than hell because of Amway's bad reputation). I leave the explanations of why Amway is a poor business opportunity or the tool scam to other bloggers. Let it go and quit wasting your time posting about a few bad people in a widely successful business that has been around longer than we have. but ypu wouldn't know..you're just here "being careful with your money". Do I look like a mechanic? Is it worth working all those hours and going into debt to trick others and not having much $$$ to show for it? People also make money and live beyond their income, which is not amways fault and it happens to 90% working class people. What would be more fantastic would be more information. Not being able to go to other kids birthday parties because their parents "counselled with upline" about buying the birthday kid a present and were told no, use that money to buy more shitty overpriced Amway products instead. That's the reality. I keep getting fucking Amway assholes showing up here and leaving comments that Im broke even though Im very careful with my money. Their mouth is moving. People in Amway are prudes The correct answer when asked about your dream is to say its to produce gay porno movies. I open mindly listened and quickly got bored. Any "business opportunity" that encourages it's recruits to not look at numbers but instead to "dream dream dream" is a red flag. Surely you can find a business with a better success rate than that. Calling it an e-commerce meeting is probably the oldest trick out there. I have yet to see a passage in the Bible which talks about how Jesus wants to bless you with material possessions beyond your wildest dreams if only you have enough faith. According to your figures? There is no charge to read this blog, leave a comment, there's nothing for sale here, and the bananas don't get money for participating here.People in Amway want to make money off you. IBOs must be in compliance at all times with the Amway IBO Compensation Plan, Quality Assurance Standards and the IBO Rules of Conduct to keep their invitation to Amway incentive trips. There seems to be a lot of this going around lately. Bitterness will eat you up. Ambot genocide? Work your way to riches? Anonymous - I'm with you. Hey Anonymous - you're not a dude you're a prude. Hello, it's me again, back from the meeting. I'll bet twice as many are questioning their faith after being involved with some of the unsavory elements in the Sales organizations. As you've figured out its just a big game of make belief. We've gone Diamond. Its printed out on Amway literature in black and white. Diamond are able to requalify. I ask because I've seen your name before in game. Amway only brings you a life of misery, debt, and destroyed relationships.Glad you saw through those lying bastards. Those XS come in a case depending on the flavor costs $30 or $40, so close to $5 a can. This is just sad ambitious or not. You don't have to pay some fucking asshole in your Amway upline $100+ a month for that shit. I asked him a few questions about his new gig but he wouldn't tell me the entire picture. The current page will be reloaded with this account info. It is obvious that Anna is throwing his/her assumptions here and there and the only way he can evaluate Amway is by calling it names or using foul languages :D I believe you have better things to do with your life other than just sitting here replying everybody for more than a year Anna, let's not reply to me or anybody else and start to enjoy your life. 1965 - First Diamonds Recognized Dutts are Amway's first Diamonds, followed quickly by Hansens and Victors. But I researched this one a lot, and it seems very solid. The first sentence of this post says the same thing as the small print of the Amway literature,150k. Hi Anonymous. Not what those hyped up ambots pretend the income is gazillions of dollars rolling in every month. The assholes in the Amway upline will start screeching about never question upline and give you some bullshit that what's printed there is only "guidelines" and the real money runs in the gazillions of dollars rolling in each month. Don't worry just curious I won't be back to respond. I really just stumbled upon this blog but I took time out of my day to make a post. How about they keep them cause it's going to cost more in time and gas money than what those brainwashing tools are worth! Gossip that serves no purpose. How can you say 150 k is a nice income. I can just see Amway assholes reading this and throwing their arms up in the air and shrieking NO NO NO!!!! Over on Amway Wiki a number of diligent editors have been creating information pages about the many, many people around the world who have qualified at the Amway Diamond level or higher.I've now added an extension to the Wiki which allows us to easily list these pages and so far we have information (at least the names!) You have focused so much on the WHAT that you totally looked over the WHY. That's good news for the owners of Amway but how does that affect their lowly paid commissioned salespeople.Ambots also show up here claiming that Amway has made more millionaires than Microsoft or Google of wherever but so far no one's shown up with a list of the millionaires for comparison. Certainly everyone who visits this site needs to read Merchants of Deception. I've got a friend in a nearby town that I can come over and visit. Realists always face reality. There are plenty of inexpensive Rolls Royces on eBay for under $20k. Sounds like a stronger selling point.Or is it less? They reached the rank of Crown Ambassador in 2014. Haha all this negative talk is ridiculous. In Memoriam: Remembering Stars Who Passed Away From 2017-2018. www.bet.com. Not everyone who signs up makes it, its all about how much effort you put. Or tickets to hear a cult leader speak. Do you believe in yourself? What would be nice to know is, who are they? There's an article written by a psychologist that we sometimes reference a link to and he got conned into an Amway meeting and he said people's dreams are usually nothing out of the ordinary - they want to buy a house, go on a nice vacation, etc. If one is available please contact me. I'm confused if your ex-lover and your ex-husband are the same person and how a lying cheating scamming Amway Diamond fits into the equation. You know what you are talking about Mr Darnell. OHHHHHHHHH I HATE those FUCKING Functions. He's not totally sold on it either. There may be lies that you can work for a few years and retire. Yeah the smart people who quit almost as soon as they sign up can get a refund. Show the plan..show the plan , show the plan. This blog mainly exists to curse out my former upline, aka the cult leaders, and to let everyone know what kind of idiots I had to put up with. Ambots can get angry, but they can't argue. Its great to know that a lot of diamonds are qualifying each year. You cannot just dismiss the thousands of people who voice their grief with this business. Its about the only thing taught at Scamway meetings. as in once a "diamond," always a? Who is now amway diamon and who is babesor. i would like to know how is it possible. Read it and try to get your ambot friend to read it too though he'll come up with all kinds of excuses. Being in the Amway cult is all about twisting the bible to suit the Amway cult leader's purposes. Not even accurate. Lets see if you paid cash for the house then there wouldnt be a mortgage and impossible for a bank to foreclose. Your really negative and you have some anger issues. But at the same time it's not for everyone. You have to buy monthly membership to what ever cult sect you're part of like WWDB call it $50. Amway wouldn't print it out if it wasn't true, would they? The point of this blog is to show that Amway is NOT a solution, it's a money-losing cult that MAKES problems for people, not solve them. When your Amway up-line tells you that you don't have to bother making actual sales to retail customers, alarm bells should go off immediately in your brain!Those alarm bells should tell you: "This company isn't concerned with product quality, or even with product movement. Only a handful of Diamonds have kept their status and they have to keep working and speaking. Everyone else is making something out of it. After all, as we speak, IBOs in your team are leaving and you have to replace them, otherwise you'll drop out of qualification! Amway Ambots love to say negative no matter how much they preach about never saying negative. gave me all sorts of shit about it for months on end, how I was a loser and wouldn't amount to crap because I have no dreams and no initiative. Yes, a Diamond who follows the instructions, which includes having 10 RETAIL customers every month and builds that ethic into their downline could make $150 K per year. And that would mean an even bigger loss than a billion next year for Amway. Some of the Amway cult leaders are invested in this company.I forgot to warn they'll ask about your dreams. What about bankrupt Diamonds. Amway controls much of the process, from where ingredients are sourced (some come from nearly 6,000 acres of Amway-owned certified organic farmlands), to where they are manufactured. So we got started and the rest is "history" to this point. Let's also assume he had some living expenses during that time. I could go through the entire business plan. you call people in Amway stupid but the real idiots are the people that listen to you". THIS IS THE RIGHT TIME TO DO AMWAY BUISNESS BECAUSE ALL THE HURDLES HAVE BEEN REMOVED WITH REGARD TO THE BUISNESS BUILDING PROCESSS. If hate bothers you that much then stay away from Amway the biggest hate mongers out there. Besides the obvious that you seem a little racist against Caucasians. Look at the small print on Amway's literature where it shows that less than 1% make money. LIke we needed further proof people in Amway are a bunch of dumb fucks! He would make a good salesman like you said, and he didn't even went to college! They do sell a lot of seminars and CDs though! Suckers. So i just dont see why anyone would bother. (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Thanks for visiting! Funny. Furthermore, in 2009 Amway held celebrations of their 50th Anniversary and invited all qualified Diamonds and above to Las Vegas. PT Barnum said "There's a sucker born every minute", and he would have been equally correct to say "There's a lying sack of $-it born every bminute" The two form an axis that revolves around defiance of natural law, that goes on forever. They have an income"No they don't. Again, this was now how I had to spend our family vacations as a teenager and to say it was hell would simply be an understatement. Holy fuck are you ever a bad little Ambot! Of course, Diamonds can have international legs, Diamonds do overlap, and Diamonds have Platinum legs that are bigger than 7500PV, so that figure likely has no little resemblance to reality. I have the biggest Amway losers showing up here to bitch about this blog all the while proclaiming they're Christians. If you continue to see this message, please contact Lastly, everyone just needs to settle down. Greed and ego can lead people to make stupid decisions, that can hurt other people. People get fired. You wont buy much for cash on that. From one of ibofightbacks websitesIt's now official, Dean and Marcie Whalen in Edmonton, Alberta are now Diamonds in the World Wide Dreambuilders LOA in the Amway business.I believe it's been 6-7 years since WWDB has had a new Diamond and this is pretty awesome news. The average diamond earns about $150,000, according to Amway. That's why there is a 90 day money back guarantee so you can't be out anything. I get from the blog description that you are married to an Amway IBO,the question is are you still married to him despite the fact you hate what he is doing that much , I read your blogs and i cant seem to understand why are you hating that Amway cooperation that much , did they like rip you off and didn't give you what you paid for or was your husband so busy in it and did not give you much time , please elaborate more . Its called facts and people who ignore them are called ignorant. Depending on the result the person would be a "hit" if they agreed to see the plan, a "miss" if there was no answer and a "flush" if they had the temerity to refuse the opportunity of a lifetime. But Anonymous can go right on "faking it til he makes it" and thinking "everything is awesome" as month after month goes by and he slips deeper and deeper into debt while his upline lovebombs/abuses him and tells him "you can't quit now, not when success is just around the corner. It is a complete fraud. We'd be happy to debunk your falsified assumptions.-Jerry. Unless they're really fucked in the head. agar aap wo paana chahate ho jo apko mil na saka to wo karna hoga jo apne abhi tak kiya nahi.. ONLY AMWAY CAN MAKE YOU TO HAVE ALL THE HAPPINESSES IN LIFE. 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